Posted by Clear Admit on February 9, 2006, at 9:02 am
Posted in: General GMAC recently came out with the statistics on GMAT volume for the 2005 calendar year, and reported that test volume is up 3.6% since 2004 (to 211,010 from 203,613 the previous year). Taking a closer look at the breakdown between US and international test-takers, it’s interesting to note that American students account for a mere 160 of the increase of several thousand. While volume of exams taken by US students has remained relatively flat, international exam volume leapt up by 7,237 tests. While overall GMAT volume is still not quite what it was this time two years ago (218,037 worldwide in 2003), this past year’s numbers for non-US students has actually surpassed the 2003 figure (72,330 exams taken).
The increase in GMAT volume seems to correspond with the rises in application volume being reported by programs like Chicago, Tuck and Sloan. The implications of this are that demand for the degree seems to be making a comeback (particularly overseas) – and that this seems to be a slightly tougher year from an admissions perspective, with schools waitlisting a number of round one applicants to see what comes in during the later rounds. Best of luck to applicants with their hats in the ring this year, as well as to those gearing up to take the exam and apply in 2006!
Posted by Clear Admit on February 8, 2006, at 1:07 pm
Posted in: General The buzz about Monday’s Boston Globe article “Wrangling over Applications” continues, as the AP picked up the story and a number of others in the industry weigh in with their opinions. In particular, Inside Higher Ed came out yesterday with an article titled “B-Schools Take on Essay Consultants,” which considers the message of the Globe commentary and includes a few quotes from admissions officers at additional schools to provide a more rounded perspective on the topic. For those schools who have voiced vehement disapproval of the industry, the underlying issue truly seems to be that the schools have a misconception about what admissions consultants do. A few additional quotes from Clear Admit’s Alex Brown are featured in the piece, which help to further clarify. Here’s a sample:
“There’s a myth out there that counseling services help students create a fictitious application that will get them into school,” says Brown, who worked in admissions at Wharton for 7 years prior to joining the firm. “The reality is that we guide people into making good choices and give them plenty of feedback.”
Additionally, yesterday’s Accepted.com blog entry features two great letters to the editor of the Boston Globe explaining the author’s reactions to the original article and further elaborating on the process and aim of admissions consulting. There was also an insightful entry in the MBA Game Plan blog saying a bit more about why the anti-consultant measures proposed by the schools (i.e. multiple interviews, different essays for different applicants, timed and supervised essay writting) might thwart organizations selling ready-made responses, but will not lower – and could very well increase – the demand for the services of legitimate admissions consultants.
It’s great to see so many voices becoming involved in this discussion. Hopefully, this is the first step in a dialogue that will alleviate confusion and promote understanding between admissions consultants and business schools.
Posted by Clear Admit on February 8, 2006, at 8:53 am
Posted in: Wiki Wednesdays The Clear Admit Wiki hit 100 entries last Friday and continues to grow as a resource – thanks to all our contributors for sharing their experiences and getting it this far! We’d like to highlight some of the timeliest additions in this week’s edition of Wiki Wednesdays to aid those applicants preparing for Round Two interviews.
As you’ll see in the “Current State” section of the wiki front page, Columbia and Stanford are presently releasing interview invitations to round two applicants and this week saw the addition of interview reports covering both programs. Wharton interviews invitations are continuing to be released, there are more than 20 reports in the wiki. Harvard interview invitations have also begun to come out, and we now have 13 HBS interview reports. This new item in particular provides interesting insight into Harvard’s alumni interview process:
The HBS alum met me in an office. He told me that he read everything except the Recs. He said HBS asked him to probe four areas and he told me upfront what they were:
1. An example of a conflict I was in that didn’t get resolved like I wanted it to be resolved.
2. My strengths and weaknesses
3. Typical responsibilities (describe one week at work)
4. A professional setback. How I handled frustration.
We walked through all four. Typically he asked one-two follow ups for each topic.
Our new IESE section also received its first interview report! With several admissions deadlines to go for that program, we hope to see more content in this section soon. Applicants with information to share on schools that we don’t currently cover are encouraged to email wiki@clearadmit.com and request that they be added (and those with something to say about schools that are listed are of course similarly urged to submit material).
Posted by Clear Admit on February 7, 2006, at 9:00 am
Posted in: General As many in the space have already noted, yesterday’s Boston Globe ran an article on business school admissions consultants and the way they’re perceived by the top MBA programs. The article features commentary from Clear Admit’s Alex Brown, who sought to dispel myths about the industry and practices that consultants employ.
“We’re starting to get some recognition by business school admission committees that we exist, that we’re not going away,” noted Alex L. Brown, senior admissions counselor at Clear Admit LLC in Philadelphia, who worries that a small group trafficking in second-hand essays on the Internet is spoiling the image of the rest of the industry. “There are people out there who say, ‘We’ll write your essay for you, or we’ll sell you an essay for Harvard,’ ” he acknowledged. “They give a bad name to those of us who are providing professional feedback.”
While our goal is really to get applicants to think about their goals, consider which programs would represent the best fit, and tell their story in the most compelling way they are able, the article illustrates that as a result of such unreputable vendors, a number of the top programs are concerned with the integrity and authenticity of applications. Brit Dewey of HBS and Derrick Bolton of Stanford are quoted as suggesting a number of measures that could be taken to remedy the perceived issue, such as requiring that essays be completed under supervision, running applicants through multiple interviews and assigning different essay topics to different candidates. A number of applicant bloggers have already weighed in with their thoughts on this matter; Dave points out that proctored essay writing would not be tenable from a financial or personnel perspective, while Kilgore Trout defends the practice of dispensing advice to applicants who want feedback from a well-informed source but are not acquainted with anyone who is familiar with the admissions process.
From our view, there are a few elements of the argument that don’t seem to hold. For instance, it’s not clear how requiring applicants to sit for multiple interviews or answer different essay questions would decrease demand for essay editing or mock interview services. Also questionable is an assertion in the article that admissions offices can tell whether an applicant has used a consultant’s help. Given the high numbers of applicants who use admissions consultants and the success these firms have getting their clients into top MBA programs, it seems that if the schools can tell, they aren’t necessarily holding it against them. Further, such remarks by admissions officers raise the question of whether schools would be willing to sacrifice a stellar student with a very polished or compelling application due to the possibly unfounded assumption that he or she sought outside help.
Not all top programs are as consultant-phobic as those represented in the article. For example, acknowledging the potential of admissions consultants to offer valuable advice to applicants and have a positive impact on the process, Tuck recently invited a number of admissions consultants to visit campus, attend a class, and learn more about the way that particular program’s admissions office works. Additionally, Clear Admit’s Graham Richmond has been invited to sit on a panel (along with Linda at Accepted.com, Maxx Duffy of Maxx Associated and Ricardo Betti of MBA Empresarial) at the annual GMAC conference, an annual forum for admissions officers of business schools all over the globe. Our hope is that this event will clarify the objectives and role of reputable consultants in the space and help business school admissions staff better understand this growing industry.
Posted by Clear Admit on February 6, 2006, at 10:30 am
Posted in: General With the first of the top programs’ admitted students events fast approaching (Wharton’s Winter Welcome will be held this week from February 8th to the 10th), we wanted to take some time today to offer advice to those applicants who have gained admission to one or more of their target programs. Even if a school is your clear first choice, there is still tremendous value in making the trip to campus, for a number of reasons.
1) The ball is in your court – in the role of the applicant, you have a number of opportunities to learn about a school and its offerings (such as the post interview Q&A), but are always under close scrutiny and continuous evaluation. With an admit in hand, you no longer need to market yourself to the schools; rather, it’s their turn to sell their programs to you. Admitted student events offer a great opportunity for prospective students to ask questions, meet faculty, attend classes and gather information that can help you make an informed decision.
2) Location, location, location – While reputation and strength in one’s target field are important criteria to evaluate in deciding which school to attend, there is definitely some validity to this old real estate adage. For those who will be relocating to attend an MBA program, it’s important to consider the campus culture and surrounding city in which you’ll be spending the next year or two. Spending a few days at the school is a great way to get a feel for the general atmosphere and social scene. Even if you’re fairly certain you’ll be enrolling in a particular program, welcome weekends offer a great opportunity to learn where students live and spend their free time.
3) The people factor – another essential element of an MBA program is the people with whom you’ll be studying. By speaking with current students, you’ll get an inside perspective on the program. You might arrange a meeting with someone pursuing similar career goals (via the appropriate b-school clubs/conferences, etc) and find out what they like and dislike about the program. Of course, the major benefit of attending an event for admitted students is that you’ll also meet your future classmates. In essence, the business school experience begins before classes start. In addition to considering your fit and determining whether or not you can envision yourself in a learning team or group project with these students, these weekend events offer a wonderful opportunity to meet and network with your peers to be. You might even find a roommate or company for summer travel!
For round two hopefuls who have not yet received decisions, it will be important that you be aware of and save the dates in order to conduct this important research. Stay tuned to this blog for a listing of the top programs’ admitted student event dates.
Posted by Clear Admit on February 3, 2006, at 9:00 am
Posted in: Fridays from the Frontline Another week, another crop of interesting and informative posts … and another installment of FFF. To keep things interesting (not that there’s ever a dull moment in the MBA blogging world), let’s lead off this week’s recap with a look at what the current students have been doing.
Classes are back in full swing, and a number of bloggers weighed in this week with some thoughts on their own experiences and the behavior of their classmates. Vijay wryly relates his observation about the correlation between term number and seating preferences at ISB, whereas Marquis is a bit more enthusiastic about his experience with one of Stanford’s most (in)famous classes. The week has been more mixed for IESE bloggers; Francis Lewis manages to keep it light by recounting the silly statement of the week, while Noelle, we’re very sorry to read, is feeling overburdened and belittled in Barcelona. Finally, MIT blogger Tom spent some time on the other side of the table by doing some teaching at Sloan. There’s also been a good deal of activity outside the classroom, as Beau attends class outside at Darden and enjoys the unseasonable warmth, Harry is on exchange and missing Duke, Death Spiral discovers he’s a minor blogging celebrity at INSEAD, and Chiru reflects on his IIT-informed approach to life.
Things continue to heat up on the recruiting front. Because the competitive nature of the job hunting process can certainly bring out the worst, we thought it was refreshing to read clueless’s account of the collaborative approach of his classmates in preparing for interviews at Rice. Divine Miss N attended an Industry (code for non-banking, non-consulting post-MBA professions) panel at LBS and in that helpful spirit shares some very valuable lessons, one of which is that individuals in these fields might not be entirely familiar with the merits of an MBA (although if bskewl’s internship search at Wharton is any indication, even aspiring consultants need to work to get mileage out of their degrees). With so much stress in the air, we’re glad that buckyhoo is finding peace at UNC at the end of his interviews. Meanwhile, Nate is just getting started at Ross, it sounds as though LBS blogger KV is more puzzled than frustrated by his internship search results, and Bharani is keeping his cool and thinking about his personal preferences and the general pros and cons of the recruiting process at ISB.
Interviews have also been on the minds of applicant bloggers this week. GunnerMBA was thrown a lifeline (last we heard, he was 0 for 2) in the form of an INSEAD interview invitation, while brownoski was more surprised than relieved upon receiving a Columbia invite – quite understandably, given the fact that he’d withdrawn his application – but it seems to have gone well. SgHama also received some good news from Chicago. While some unfortunately learn the merits of requesting an interview early a bit too late, Pupstar78 interviewed with a Kellogg alum last weekend and has written up a report of his experience and the logistics of the process (Sorebrek, on the other hand, offers an hilarious account of how not to prepare). We were glad to read that Ty Coon left his Emory visit with a positive impression and some colorful stories – and it sounds like he nailed the interview while he was at it!
Another theme that’s carried over from last week is waiting, waiting and more waiting. The process of anxiously anticipating word from their target programs seems to be taking its toll on our blogging friends; MBAyisyen wonders how to muster the energy to complete three more applications after just having submitted to Columbia, FoobarMe finds himself sweating over his Stanford essays, Ash tries to hold on to hope, and MBACutie rethinks her stance on Harvard. Meanwhile, Columbia-bound Marina saw her Haas decision arrive (sort of), but was still waiting for her job to end – until she took action and arrived at a very sweet deal indeed.
While some applicants are waiting on interview invitations, others on the waitlist wonder about the school’s ultimate decisions. Kilgore Trout took up the offer of waitlist feedback from Tuck, and provides a nice explanation of the school’s use of the list this year (and the importance of showing Tuck the love it requires). Brownoski doesn’t seem too discouraged by Sloan’s hard-to-get act, and ChillPill, who entered the blogging scene this week with waitlist letters from both Chicago and Tepper in hand, is also taking the news as a positive sign of his candidacy.
While waitlist concern reigned this week, there were some definite decisions to be had. Ty Coon initially found MIT channeling Python, but upon further inspection decided that his ding letter was a bit more encouraging than most. There was some good news this week as well – congrats, KTyler, on that Haas admit!
Posted by Clear Admit on February 2, 2006, at 6:16 pm
Posted in: General Clear Admit’s Alex Brown is looking for a Bay Area-based blogger to work with him on a presentation about blogging through the application process. Anyone interested can email him directly at alexbr@clearadmit.com.
Thanks for reading!
Posted by Clear Admit on February 2, 2006, at 8:56 am
Posted in: Admissions Tips , School: Virginia / Darden With interview season kicking into gear for round two applicants, we wanted to focus today on Darden’s somewhat unusual process. The program allows applicants to travel to Charlottesville and schedule an interview through March 1st, after which the school switches into invitation only mode. Interviews are required for admission and while the school will contact applicants to interview after submitting their applications and passing an initial screening, being proactive about visiting the campus and speaking with an admissions representative is certainly a strong sign of interest in the program.
Here’s a bit of what Darden’s website tells applicants about their interview process:
We conduct unstructured interviews and do not ask a common set of questions for all interviewees. Your interpersonal skills and communication skills are as important as the specific content of the interview. The tone of the interview is relaxed and conversational and typically lasts about 45 minutes.
Indeed, the majority of accounts we’ve received indicate that Darden interviewers open the discussion with the request, “tell me your story,” which is about as unstructured and open ended as they come. This is not surprising given Darden’s emphasis on the case method; it makes sense that the school would be interested in an applicant’s ability to structure and communicate information. Be prepared to comment on your experiences and interests in a broad manner, and to outline the highlights of your career path and extracurricular involvements. Finally, you’ll want to end by explaining how this path has brought you to Darden and why you are seeking an MBA from that program at the current time. Your aim should be to speak articulately and to progress from one point to another in a logical manner: an ability that is essential to succeeding in, and making a valuable contribution to, a case-based learning environment.
Other Darden Interview Resources
Clear Admit Wiki Darden Interview page
BW Forum Current Student Q&A
In addition to reading up on Darden’s interview process, it will also be critical to practice delivering your story, conduct thorough research on UVA’s program, and of course consider your responses to the inevitable “Why MBA/Why Darden” questions. Good luck to everyone preparing to take this step!
Posted by Clear Admit on February 1, 2006, at 8:29 am
Posted in: Wiki Wednesdays Welcome to the latest edition of Wiki Wednesday, our weekly column intended to keep readers updated on the latest adjustments and additions to the MBA Admissions Wiki. It’s been another solid week, and we are closing in on 100 pieces of content – our thanks go out to everyone who’s contributed so far! Keep that great content coming!
Interview preparation remains a popular topic among applicants, and the past week saw new firsthand accounts added for Wharton, Kellogg, Chicago, Sloan and many other programs. As an example of the helpful content you’ll find on these pages, here’s an excerpt from a recently added account of a very positive Yale interview:
The interviewer already had a copy of my resume, and we started walking it through. Since I prepared quite some stuff regarding work experience, leadership, education, and extracurricular, it took almost 20 minutes. Then I was given opportunities to ask interviewer a few questions. Therefore in fact the only question I had was to “walk me through resume”. In the last 10 minutes, I was given tons of information about the interviewer’s own exciting experience at SOM, and I was highly impressed. I felt the interview went well and I am very positive about SOM.
While the wiki can be a great resource for those applicants who have already applied for 2006 entry and are gearing up for interviews, it’s also intended as a useful tool for those individuals who are considering fall 2007 entry and determining where to apply. In the “Visit” section for each school, prospective students can share their experiences on campus and impression of the campus culture for the benefit of others considering the school. This recent addition to the Wharton Visit section is a great example:
I found the health care students to be very collegial and involved in their school. Multiple students offered (and made good on the offer) to talk me through the rest of the admissions process. I was impressed by the alumni involvement in the conference – Wharton Health Care is a very strong community, and the caliber of speakers they were able to invite was impressive.
Interacted less with non-health care students, but the tour guide was very helpful. Found Wharton from the tour to be a group-oriented place without a one-size fits all approach. People seemed to be doing exactly what interested them. The campus is beautiful.
By request, we’ve just added an IESE section, and the blogs page in particular is already becoming well populated. We’re committed to making this tool as useful and informative as possible, so if you would like to share your experiences at a school that isn’t presently on our list or would like to see an additional program covered, feel free to let us know!
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